Curse

KANE OG · Oct 26, 2006, 11:36 PM // 23:36

Nevermind, screwed up my post.

leprekan · Oct 26, 2006, 11:39 PM // 23:39

To all the people saying this is a good thing ... please do not cry when ecto prices go up.

Challenge? I don't call making something more difficult that you have been doing for 18 months a challenge. I call that grind. If I had one wish it would be that Anet focused more on the damn game and less about the **gasp** 20 bucks someone spent on ebay. WHO CARES. Anet's crusade impacts the innocent which is BS.

Skids · Oct 27, 2006, 12:01 AM // 00:01

Strikes me a lot of the changes mafe are their attempt at balance and that the AOE thing has been on the cards for a while. Anet kept schtumm about it for good reason and have by no coincidence released it now right when NF comes out.

Lots of players are upset because all they really have had to do for a while is farm once the previous chapters are finished. Now farming has been nerfed but oooh look whats this a new chapter!!! They hope it will take our attention away from the downside.

Sid Soggybottom · Oct 27, 2006, 12:08 AM // 00:08

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Originally Posted by leprekan

To all the people saying this is a good thing ... please do not cry when ecto prices go up.

Challenge? I don't call making something more difficult that you have been doing for 18 months a challenge. I call that grind. If I had one wish it would be that Anet focused more on the damn game and less about the **gasp** 20 bucks someone spent on ebay. WHO CARES. Anet's crusade impacts the innocent which is BS.

I dont give a crap about ecto prices. I dont know why you people always put priority on the economy, item prices and farming over actual gameplay and balance.

Joshgt2 · Oct 27, 2006, 12:16 AM // 00:16

What about the Dervish? Every one of her attacks is like a Cyclone Axe or a Triple Chop! Not a big fan of the fact I smack someone 4 times then have to run after them.

leprekan · Oct 27, 2006, 12:17 AM // 00:17

Uh this is about "actual gameplay" sorry if I think it is grind when something I have been doing for 18 months now takes longer. This is fun how? This helps casual gamers how? The average pugs skill set is enough to make people drink and now we are forced to use them? Feel free to be a yes man but do get a clue. LMAO and this was balance how? SOJ and SS needed to be nerfed for pvp? It was a blatant example of Anet attacking farmers.

The Prince · Oct 27, 2006, 12:17 AM // 00:17

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Originally Posted by Sid Soggybottom

I dont give a crap about ecto prices. I dont know why you people always put priority on the economy, item prices and farming over actual gameplay and balance.

because playing the game with crappy items makes it less fun. Also because acquiring good items is based on...thats right, having money. playing through the game provides you with some gold yes, but not nearly enough.the game is described is partly RPG, meaning that if you cant actually play your character the way you want it to be played, your enjoyment goes down. i know if i hadnt farmed and gotten my warrior enough cash to get 15k armor and enough cash to buy a nice green that i wanted, and instead had to play through the game wearing the same boring shing jea armor that it gives you at the beginning of the game, it would have been a lot less fun. farming gives people a motivation to keep playing, and acquiring items that are rare. i agree with the above statement, so what if someone makes 20 bucks selling their gold on ebay? i dont think that hurts the game as a whole, and solo farming i think helps lower prices for rare items by increasing the supply. If Anet wants to nerf farming completly (ill-advised if they want to keep people interested in their products and not pissed because their sole reason for playing after beating the game, which can be done pretty quickly since leveling to 20 takes about a day and a half if you know what your doing), then they should increase the amount of drops people get during missions and make it easier to acquire money.

chicks boy · Oct 27, 2006, 12:19 AM // 00:19

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Originally Posted by Ritualistic Spankin

Don't even say that...I have a strong hatred for playing a warrior. Now I will have to go curl up in the corner and cry while having nightmares of me being a whammi.

yeaa wars r 2 overpowered. wars can kill anything! i hate playing them, worst melee fighter and wars doesnt even have dual wielding tats like 2 boring

lord_shar · Oct 27, 2006, 12:20 AM // 00:20

My toon is still soloing UW for ecto's no prob. The AI changes slow me down a little bit, but I've completed several runs without significant problems.

supaet · Oct 27, 2006, 12:21 AM // 00:21

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Originally Posted by leprekan

Uh this is about "actual gameplay" sorry if I think it is grind when something I have been doing for 18 months now takes longer. This is fun how? This helps casual gamers how? The average pugs skill set is enough to make people drink and now we are forced to use them? Feel free to be a yes man but do get a clue. LMAO and this was balance how? SOJ and SS needed to be nerfed for pvp? It was a blatant example of Anet attacking farmers.

If it's not fun, then don't do it. Do you farm for gold? why? you want fow armor? that makes you look leet? go play wow and farm for gear.

Do you farm for fun? take it as a new challenge. Like you said, you being doing it for 18 monthes, arnt you bored?

supaet · Oct 27, 2006, 12:23 AM // 00:23

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Originally Posted by The Prince

because playing the game with crappy items makes it less fun. Also because acquiring good items is based on...thats right, having money. playing through the game provides you with some gold yes, but not nearly enough.the game is described is partly RPG, meaning that if you cant actually play your character the way you want it to be played, your enjoyment goes down. i know if i hadnt farmed and gotten my warrior enough cash to get 15k armor and enough cash to buy a nice green that i wanted, and instead had to play through the game wearing the same boring shing jea armor that it gives you at the beginning of the game, it would have been a lot less fun. farming gives people a motivation to keep playing, and acquiring items that are rare. i agree with the above statement, so what if someone makes 20 bucks selling their gold on ebay? i dont think that hurts the game as a whole, and solo farming i think helps lower prices for rare items by increasing the supply. If Anet wants to nerf farming completly (ill-advised if they want to keep people interested in their products and not pissed because their sole reason for playing after beating the game, which can be done pretty quickly since leveling to 20 takes about a day and a half if you know what your doing), then they should increase the amount of drops people get during missions and make it easier to acquire money.

what is a crappy item in gw? this is not wow. So wearing fow armor to play makes it more fun? how?

Tachyon · Oct 27, 2006, 12:24 AM // 00:24

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Originally Posted by chicks boy

yeaa wars r 2 overpowered. wars can kill anything! i hate playing them, worst melee fighter and wars doesnt even have dual wielding tats like 2 boring

Have you ever made a comprehensible or sensible post?

Gli · Oct 27, 2006, 12:24 AM // 00:24

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Originally Posted by lord_shar

My toon is still soloing UW for ecto's no prob. The AI changes slow me down a little bit, but I've completed several runs without significant problems.

Right, it's still very much doable. I've just finished my 2nd solo smite run using a vengeful ritualist. A bit harder, but still no biggie. If anything, it's easier to stay awake this way.

May ecto prices soar once more!

The Prince · Oct 27, 2006, 12:33 AM // 00:33

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Originally Posted by Phoebe

You can't expect ANet to balance the game around the discrimination criterias of subpar PvE players.

Why not? PvE, is not, as some elitists like to think, a warmup to PvP, its rather a different gaming experience. I didnt buy Guildwars to play in arena battles against other people, if i wanted that, i would have just kept playing Halo. Frankly, this isnt an example of balancing at all, since many of the skills targeted have little application in PvP anyways. Second point, why the hating on PvE players? just because I dont constrain myself to finding a group in HA (hard unless you have rank already bc of the constant "no n00b" crap or "show rank 1st"), and want to play through the storyline that the developers spent their time creating, makes me a subpar player? Maybe if Anet focused on keeping the two game experiences separate and unique, instead of making them too similar, then the professions and the game experience as a whole will benefit. I for one dont want to have to change my characters into narrow specialized pvp builds just to find a party to do missions in pve with.

"Toucher LFG for miss/bonus"..or "Forming IWAY, SI"----thats when PvE stops being enjoyable for the casual player and those who play the game to relax or have a good time instead of "ZOMFG U JUST GOT PWND N00B"

The Prince · Oct 27, 2006, 12:36 AM // 00:36

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Originally Posted by supaet

what is a crappy item in gw? this is not wow. So wearing fow armor to play makes it more fun? how?

who wants their player to have the exact same equipment/looks/skills etc as another?takes the RPG out of MMORPG. i take pride in what i've acquired for my characters, and i think its fun to treasure hunt for rare items. im sure many ppl have a grand ole time playing with standard items but if it wasnt more fun/desiriable to have better items than people wouldnt be able to get 100k+xx ectos for rare items.

Feurin Longcastle · Oct 27, 2006, 12:43 AM // 00:43

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Originally Posted by Phoebe

You can't expect ANet to balance the game around the discrimination criterias of subpar PvE players.

Except these "subpar" PvE players comprise the majority of PUG's. Assassin's are all but blacklisted from decent teams, mesmers are usually overlooked, necro's are often coerced to only using MM builds, etc. This is the reality of PvE as is. Anet would do well to assist these classes in PvE rather than magnifying the problem further.

The Prince · Oct 27, 2006, 12:50 AM // 00:50

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Originally Posted by Feurin Longcastle

Except these "subpar" PvE players comprise the majority of PUG's. Assassin's are all but blacklisted from decent teams, mesmers are usually overlooked, necro's are often coerced to only using MM builds, etc. This is the reality of PvE as is. Anet would do well to assist these classes in PvE rather than magnifying the problem further.

/agreed

Taurus · Oct 27, 2006, 12:53 AM // 00:53

I love the sound of whining n00bs.
Stupid PvEr's, listen : NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE WITH ALL YOUR WHINING, you should all mass /ragequit GuildWars, if enough players leave, they will actually see if they made a mistake or not.

Phoebe · Oct 27, 2006, 12:57 AM // 00:57

People, you need to realize that ANet can only fix the game, they can't fix the players. The problem with pugs comes from the players, no amount of skill balancing is going to fix bad players.

blindside350 · Oct 27, 2006, 12:57 AM // 00:57

How Depressing, I think I'm going to switch to WoW now =(